Exploring the 12 Places in Egyptian Sources w/ Dorian Greenbaum

AYA Official

June 30


01:00 pm - 02:30 pm

Event Category:

Dinner and Drinks

Join the Association for Young Astrologers for a Q and A dialogue with Dr. Dorian Gieseler Greenbaum, who teaches on the MA in Cultural Astronomy and Astrology in the Sophia Centre, University of Wales Trinity St David.

This introductory conversation will explore the Egyptian contribution towards the ancient significations of the 12 houses. Some big questions and fascinating connections arise from reading extant astrological manuscripts in Demotic (a late stage of the Egyptian language), gazing at Egyptian artifacts with astrological imagery, and pondering the notion of the δαίμων(daímōn), which can fertilize our thinking with new ideas and metaphors to understand the 12 places in the sky.

Recent archaeological discoveries and translations are shedding new light on the extent to which the development of horoscopic astrology in the hotbed of Alexandria was influenced by Demotic currents. How can a more nuanced understanding of how Demotic astrology fit into the cultural milieu of astrology in the Mediterranean area enhance our work as astrologers in 2018?

We will be looking at the following topics together:
1) the origin in Egypt of the Ascendant and temporal/spatial divisions of what became the astrological chart into places
2) evidence of place names in Demotic astrology
3) examples of charts in Demotic Egyptian

This event is the classic Dinner and Drinks format you know and love, this time accommodating brunch and tea times for our friends across the world’s time zones!

As always, this event is free, online, conversational, and open to everyone. Sit at your computer with breakfast, lunch, dinner, a drink or tea, or whatever suits your fancy from your place on the globe!

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Dorian Greenbaum has taught and practiced astrology since 1992. She teaches on the MA in Cultural Astronomy and Astrology in the Sophia Centre, University of Wales Trinity St David. She received her Ph.D. in 2009 from the Warburg Institute, London. Her book based on her thesis, The Daimon in Hellenistic Astrology: Origins and Influence, was published by Brill in 2016. Recently published articles include ‘Astronomy, Astrology and Medicine’, in Springer’s Handbook of Archaeoastronomy and Ethnoastronomy, ed. Clive L. N. Ruggles, 2014; (with Franziska Naether) ‘Astrological Implications in the “Lot Oracle” PGM 50’, MHNH, 11, 2011, pp. 484-505; ‘Arrows, Aiming and Divination: Astrology as a Stochastic Art’, in Divination: Perspectives for a New Millennium, ed. Patrick Curry (Farnham, Surrey, 2010; and (with Micah Ross) ‘The Role of Egypt in the Development of the Horoscope’ in Egypt in Transition: Social and Religious Development of Egypt in the First Millennium BCE, edsBareš, Coppens and Smoláriková (Prague, 2010). Her most recent article, ‘Porphyry of Tyre on the Daimon, Birth and the Stars’ will appear this August in Neoplatonic Demons and Angels, edsBrisson, O’Neill and Timotin, Brill 2018.